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Shakaar_Reject
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #60 on:
June 14, 2012, 09:43:59 AM »
Quote from: Dave on June 14, 2012, 01:58:19 AM
Good episode - I like Suzie Plakson and this was good to see Worf picked on by a tough chick.
He made a good captain, they should have let him be captain for the rest of the week just to freak everyone in starfleet out.
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Podcast audio was good too.
I hate to throw hate, but Plakson always bugged the crap out of me. She overacts incredibly. Watch the episode. She expresses everything very dramatically. I understand the Klingon rage thing, but this is over the top and fake. Listen to her say "I am K'Ehleyr!" She sounds like a Muppet.
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atatcommander
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #61 on:
June 14, 2012, 12:02:13 PM »
Ok, I forgot about this Emissary. I was thinking of the DS9 pilot of the same name. So yeah this wasn't the epsidoe where wore out the tape.
oh well. I don't think i have ever seen this episode.
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Captain Chris Sixx
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #62 on:
June 14, 2012, 03:08:18 PM »
Quote from: MRess on June 13, 2012, 11:42:30 PM
BTW, can you explain in layman's terms what the Lean Six Sigma Yellow Belt test is?
Lean rose as a method for optimizing automotive manufacturing; Six Sigma evolved as a quality initiative to eliminate defects by reducing variation in processes in the semiconductor industry. Lean Six Sigma is a business improvement methodology that maximizes shareholder value by achieving the fastest rate of improvement in customer satisfaction, cost, quality, process speed, and invested capital.
The fusion of Lean and Six Sigma improvement methods is required because Lean cannot bring a process under statistical control, Six Sigma alone can not dramatically improve process speed or reduce invested capital, and both enable the reduction of the cost of complexity.
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Terrh sKhev
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #63 on:
June 14, 2012, 03:46:04 PM »
In the bloopers did Keri say she wanted to see a half-black, half-white, and half-ferengi alien?
The Trek equivalent of ManBearPig?
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #64 on:
June 14, 2012, 05:02:01 PM »
Ok. Can someone check on Jeff?
First a Klingon fashion segment, followed by A comparison and contrast in Klingon forehead ridges (Klingon beauty tips!!)?
Even difficulty in birth comparison due to said ridges?
Anyone else see the pattern?
Maybe Jeff is in touch with his inner Female Klingon side!
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #65 on:
June 14, 2012, 05:21:52 PM »
Quote from: Psicorps on June 14, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
Ok. Can someone check on Jeff?
First a Klingon fashion segment, followed by A comparison and contrast in Klingon forehead ridges (Klingon beauty tips!!)?
Even difficulty in birth comparison due to said ridges?
Anyone else see the pattern?
Maybe Jeff is in touch with his inner Female Klingon side!
guilty as charged, although the birth thing was mentioned by Keri, not me.
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Broke_Ferengi
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #66 on:
June 14, 2012, 11:10:43 PM »
Quote from: MRess on June 13, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: Terrh sKhev on June 13, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
Quote from: MRess on June 13, 2012, 12:57:38 AM
I liked the interaction between Worf and K'Ehleyr. I think he learned a lot in their relationship that eventually helped him in his relationship with Dax. Comparing those two relationships, you can see how he matured.
The "lost Klingon ship" idea is picked up again in Voyager's episode "Prophecy". There is indeed a cult involved in that. Could it be that someone got those episodes confused?
Comparing K'Ehleyr with Torres: why is it that Klingon hybrids have issues with temper control, when full Klingons seem better able to channel their aggressions in - for them - culturally acceptable ways?
Weren't both K'Ehleyr and Torres raised by their human parents? Maybe it's something about that which causes them to be more aggressive. Worf may just be the exception in this case.
Good point. Though Worf did once tell the story of how he accidently killed a human when he was young, and how he learned to control himself as a result.
That scene where Worf explains to Dax why he always practices restraint. That is the only redeeming scene from that episode (DS9, Let He Who is Without Sin), and would definitely be a most entertaining podcast
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Q
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #67 on:
June 14, 2012, 11:21:18 PM »
I just want to say that an unspoken highlight of each episode is Keri's summarization of the ep.
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Broke_Ferengi
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Reply #68 on:
June 14, 2012, 11:31:27 PM »
Its been interesting comparing and contrasting typical Klingon behavior to both Work and K'Ehleyr. It was stated and implied in both the episode and discussion that Worf is more 'Klingon' of the two. I believe however that Worf is not a viable representative sample either.
When it comes to matters surrounding honor, tenacity, loyalty, and other codes of warrior culture, Worf is a Klingon of the highest order. However, he tends to be restrained, reserved, and surprisingly introspective, while the stereotypical Klingon is exuberant and openly demonstrates a fatalistic lust for life.
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MRess
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #69 on:
June 14, 2012, 11:49:01 PM »
Quote from: Broke_Ferengi on June 14, 2012, 11:10:43 PM
That scene where Worf explains to Dax why he always practices restraint. That is the only redeeming scene from that episode (DS9, Let He Who is Without Sin), and would definitely be a most entertaining podcast
It would be interesting to compare K'Ehleyr and Dax, and how Worf related to each of them.
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MRess
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #70 on:
June 14, 2012, 11:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Q on June 14, 2012, 11:21:18 PM
I just want to say that an unspoken highlight of each episode is Keri's summarization of the ep.
Yes, definitely!
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MRess
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What part of "meow" don't you understand?
Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #71 on:
June 15, 2012, 12:25:53 AM »
Quote from: Broke_Ferengi on June 14, 2012, 11:31:27 PM
Its been interesting comparing and contrasting typical Klingon behavior to both Work and K'Ehleyr. It was stated and implied in both the episode and discussion that Worf is more 'Klingon' of the two. I believe however that Worf is not a viable representative sample either.
When it comes to matters surrounding honor, tenacity, loyalty, and other codes of warrior culture, Worf is a Klingon of the highest order. However, he tends to be restrained, reserved, and surprisingly introspective, while the stereotypical Klingon is exuberant and openly demonstrates a fatalistic lust for life.
If I'm not mistaken, both K'Ehleyr and B'Elanna, though Klingon hybrids, were raised at least partly by their Klingon parent, so they each had a Klingon role model when growing up. Worf, though a full Klingon, was raised in a Human family and thus, I imagine, lacked a close flesh-and-blood Klingon role model in his formative years. So instead he identified with the stereotypical representation of Klingons that he got from Humans. It would be interesting to explore the differences that made in their characters.
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MRess
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #72 on:
June 15, 2012, 01:04:16 AM »
Quote from: Chris Six on June 14, 2012, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: MRess on June 13, 2012, 11:42:30 PM
BTW, can you explain in layman's terms what the Lean Six Sigma Yellow Belt test is?
Lean rose as a method for optimizing automotive manufacturing; Six Sigma evolved as a quality initiative to eliminate defects by reducing variation in processes in the semiconductor industry. Lean Six Sigma is a business improvement methodology that maximizes shareholder value by achieving the fastest rate of improvement in customer satisfaction, cost, quality, process speed, and invested capital.
The fusion of Lean and Six Sigma improvement methods is required because Lean cannot bring a process under statistical control, Six Sigma alone can not dramatically improve process speed or reduce invested capital, and both enable the reduction of the cost of complexity.
To be honest, I still haven't got a clue. Maybe you need to download those programs directly into my matrix, or whatever
. But now that you're done, you should change your name to Chris Six Sigma and be in charge of keeping the Relativity at peak operating capacity. (I don't think Mike needs to be optimized, though!
)
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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Reply #73 on:
June 15, 2012, 02:53:28 AM »
Quote from: MRess on June 14, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
It would be interesting to compare K'Ehleyr and Dax, and how Worf related to each of them.
Don't forget Troi!
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Re: TNL057 - The Emissary
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June 15, 2012, 10:10:29 AM »
Quote from: Kazleti on June 15, 2012, 02:53:28 AM
Quote from: MRess on June 14, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
It would be interesting to compare K'Ehleyr and Dax, and how Worf related to each of them.
Don't forget Troi!
I'm sensing forgetfulness
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